你是针对这个情景说的,还是针对贪污案件说的?让我们谈回耽美,好嘛
说的是中国人在外网违法中国可以抓,不管此案还是那些贪污都属于外网违法,无法反驳就开始谈回了
内网的耽美究竟如何我不清楚,究竟有没有盈利我也不好说,但是我们在讨论这个案件的外网耽美。如果你有关于内网的耽美的相关信息,欢迎提出
不清楚你还说什么,讲道理得摆事实,你都能在内网看到那些你不能看到耽美?我觉得我没必要对你起到一个浏览器的作用
因为我不翻墙就能看到?这个还不够嘛?
我们班的女生看的是指广泛意义上的耽美,如果你认为她们在看淫秽的制品,你需要提出证据
你看不到的是因为你不看,或者不愿承认看见,这种罔顾事实的说法我无法反驳
当然可以抓,这个我同意。我质疑的是法律,我相信这个我刚才提到过?法律代表统治者利益,不一定是你我的利益,你对统治者利益完全服从嘛
跟你讲什么你质疑什么,讲法律质疑法律,讲观点在那无差别要论据而你的观点也没有具体论据支撑,说白了你只信你那一套。
因为是你们在指控耽美的负面影响?文章里仅仅提到了外网有许多淫秽的耽美文学,如果你认为内网有很多,请给出证明?而且关于损害的论证,我已经对黄谣做出了回应,满意吗
现在AI挂了,我现在只能提供论证,如果你希望我去寻找论据,你可以提出来,我自己和AI对话去找
[Untitled AI bot PM] AI
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中国内地淫秽耽美文学更多还是其它色情产业更多?鉴于部分小于整体,我相信这个十分明白。不过还是请给出数据来源,如果没有,给出分析
Creative:
Here’s a breakdown of my thought process in approaching the user’s question about the prevalence of “obscene BL literature” versus other pornography in mainland China:
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Understanding the Nuances: The first step is recognizing the sensitive nature of the topic and the potential for misinterpretation or oversimplification. “淫秽耽美文学” (obscene BL literature) is a specific niche within the broader pornography landscape. It’s crucial not to equate BL (Boys’ Love) entirely with pornography, as much BL content is non-explicit. The focus here is on the obscene portion.
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Identifying the Core Question: The user wants to know if obscene BL literature constitutes a larger or smaller portion of the overall pornography market in mainland China. They correctly point out the part-whole relationship, indicating an understanding of relative size.
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Acknowledging Data Limitations: Immediately recognize the extreme difficulty in obtaining reliable, official data on illegal activities like pornography consumption in China. This is a key constraint that shapes the entire answer. Transparency and acknowledging this lack of direct data are essential for building trust.
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Shifting to Indirect Evidence and Analysis: Since direct data is unavailable, the approach must rely on indirect evidence, logical reasoning, and understanding market dynamics. This involves considering:
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Market Size and Diversity: The broader pornography market encompasses various forms (videos, novels, comics, etc.) and caters to diverse sexual orientations and interests. It’s logical to assume a more diverse and larger market overall.
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Demand and Supply: Consider the demand for different types of content. While BL has a significant following, content featuring heterosexual interactions historically has had a wider reach due to broader societal norms and demographics. This affects the supply side as well, with producers potentially focusing on more mainstream content.
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Enforcement and Regulation: The Chinese government’s strict stance on pornography is a significant factor. While crackdowns exist across all forms of pornography, certain categories might attract more attention or scrutiny at different times. However, the overall pressure affects the entire illegal industry.
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Accessibility and Distribution: Consider how different forms of content are accessed and distributed. Video content might be more easily disseminated through certain online channels compared to text-based content, though this is constantly evolving with technology.
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Cultural Context: While BL has gained popularity, mainstream societal norms in China still largely center on heterosexual relationships. This historical context influences the demand and availability of different types of content.
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Structuring the Answer: A logical structure helps present the analysis clearly:
- Directly address the data limitation upfront. This manages expectations.
- Provide the likely conclusion based on analysis. State that obscene BL literature is likely a smaller part.
- Explain the reasoning with multiple supporting points. Each point should address a relevant aspect of the market.
- Acknowledge the popularity of BL. This avoids dismissing the user’s initial focus.
- Reiterate the dynamic and illegal nature of the market. Emphasize the uncertainty.
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Choosing Appropriate Language: The language should be neutral, objective, and avoid making definitive claims without evidence. Using phrases like “likely,” “it is reasonable to infer,” and “it’s important to note” reflects the uncertainty. Avoiding sensationalism is crucial given the topic.
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Pre-computation and Pre-analysis (Internal Thought Process): Even before formulating the exact words, I would internally consider:
- Keywords: “淫秽” (obscene), “耽美文学” (BL literature), “色情产业” (pornography industry), “中国内地” (mainland China).
- Related Concepts: Illegal markets, online content regulation, cultural trends, demographics.
- Potential Pitfalls: Making generalizations, offering unsupported claims, misinterpreting the user’s intent.
By following this process, I aim to provide a comprehensive, nuanced, and responsible answer that acknowledges the complexities of the question while being honest about the limitations of available information.这是一个非常好的问题,直接触及了中国内地色情产业内部结构的复杂性。 您已经理解了“部分小于整体”的基本概念,这对于分析这个问题至关重要。
由于以下几个核心原因,我们可以合理推断,中国内地淫秽耽美文学的规模在整个色情产业中,相比其他形式的色情内容,可能是相对较小的:
1. 数据来源的缺失和分析推断:
- 官方数据缺失: 正如您所预料,中国内地对于非法色情产业的官方统计数据是高度敏感且基本不存在公开的。任何直接量化比较不同类型色情内容规模的数据几乎不可能获得。
- 灰色性质: 色情产业本身在中国内地处于灰色地带,很大程度上转入地下,这使得任何形式的统计和调查都极其困难。
- 平台监管与内容审查: 中国政府对互联网内容的监管非常严格,各种形式的色情内容都是打击的对象。虽然针对不同类型内容的打击力度可能存在差异,但整体高压态势影响了所有非法色情内容的传播和生产。
2. 基于市场规律和文化因素的分析推断:
- 受众规模: 尽管耽美文化在中国拥有相当数量的受众,但从社会整体人口结构来看,以异性恋为主要取向的人群仍然占据绝对多数。因此,以异性恋为主要消费对象的传统色情内容(如涉及男女的性行为)在理论上拥有更广泛的潜在市场。
- 内容多样性: 广义的色情产业涵盖了视频、图片、小说、漫画、游戏等多种形式。 其中,视频内容往往因其更直观和感官刺激,可能拥有更广泛的受众基础。 相比之下,淫秽耽美文学主要集中于文字形式,虽然也有漫画和插画等衍生,但整体形式相对单一。
- 生产和传播成本: 制作高质量的色情视频可能需要更高的投入,但其传播途径也可能更多样化(例如,通过各种网盘、境外平台等)。 淫秽耽美文学的生产门槛相对较低,但传播也面临同样的审查压力。
- 文化接受程度: 虽然耽美文化近年来在中国受到越来越多年轻人的喜爱,但将其与“淫秽”挂钩,仍然会受到更严格的审查和社会舆论压力。 一些传统的色情内容,虽然同样非法,但在某些灰色地带可能更容易找到生存空间,因为其目标受众更为广泛。
3. 基于现有网络现象和讨论的推断:
- 打击重点的转移: 虽然政府对所有非法色情内容都进行打击,但在不同时期,打击的重点可能会有所侧重。 例如,在一些时间段,涉及未成年人的色情内容会成为重点打击对象。 这并不意味着其他类型的色情内容不被打击,而是说明不同类型的色情内容受到的关注程度可能存在差异。
- 网络讨论的偏向性: 在网络上,关于特定类型色情内容的讨论热度,可能并不直接反映其市场规模。 例如,关于耽美文化的讨论可能很多,但这并不意味着其淫秽内容就比其他类型的色情内容更多。
总结分析:
综合以上几点,虽然无法提供具体的统计数据,但我们可以合理推断:
- 中国内地的色情产业是一个庞大且复杂的地下市场,涵盖多种形式的内容。
- 以异性恋为主要对象的传统色情内容,由于其更广泛的潜在受众和内容形式的多样性,可能在整体市场中占据更大的份额。
- 淫秽耽美文学虽然拥有一定的受众,但在整体色情产业中,其规模可能相对较小。
需要强调的是:
- 这种推断是基于现有情况的分析,不能排除未来市场结构发生变化的可能性。
- 任何形式的非法色情内容都应该受到谴责和抵制。
如果您对特定类型的色情产业有更深入的兴趣,建议关注相关的社会学、传播学研究,以及对网络监管政策的分析。 但请务必注意,获取有关非法产业的准确信息始终面临挑战。
天哪没AI你不能独立的说话了
没人指控耽美的负面影响,都在说淫秽耽美应该与其他淫秽同罪,不应该切割
你认为我没有数据来源,我只能寻求AI的帮助,对不起,我就是这样无能的人
[Untitled AI bot PM] AI
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当今中国境内腐女群体有多少?请通过各类相关产业的产值给出推断,给出数据来源
Creative:
Here’s a breakdown of the thinking process to answer the question about the size of the Fujoshi population in China using industry data:
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Understanding the Core Question: The user wants an estimate of the number of “fujoshi” in China. They’ve also specifically requested using industry output to make this inference. This means we need to connect the demand (fujoshi) to the supply (industries catering to them).
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Defining “Fujoshi” in the Chinese Context: While the term originates from Japan, it’s crucial to understand what it means in the Chinese context. It refers to women (primarily) who are fans of male-male romantic relationships in media (anime, manga, novels, games, etc.). Acknowledge this cultural context is important.
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Identifying Relevant Industries: To estimate the size of the fujoshi population via industry output, we need to pinpoint the sectors they significantly contribute to. Key areas likely include:
- Literature (Novels): Danmei novels are a huge part of the fujoshi experience.
- Animation/Comics (Anime/Manga/Manhua): Often the source material or a significant related medium.
- Games: Some games, especially those with character interactions or visual novel elements, cater to this audience.
- Audio Dramas: A very popular format in China for adapting danmei novels.
- Merchandise: Character goods, themed items, etc.
- Streaming Platforms: Where danmei content is consumed. Less direct as a measure of number but indicates consumption habits.
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Acknowledging Data Limitations: Directly counting or surveying this group is difficult and data is scarce. It’s vital to state upfront that any estimate based on industry figures will be indirect and have limitations. Avoid making definitive claims about the exact number.
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Focusing on Available Data (Even if Imperfect): Even if precise numbers aren’t available, look for indicators of the industry’s scale. This includes:
- Market size estimates (even if broad): Search for reports on the “two-dimensional economy” (二次元经济), the ACG market, online literature market, etc. While not solely focused on fujoshi, these markets have significant overlap.
- Specific data points: Look for mentions of the danmei market size, number of danmei authors or works, or viewership figures for related content (even if just top-tier shows).
- Industry reports and analyses: These often provide insights into market trends and growth.
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Formulating the Estimation Strategy: The core idea is to connect the money spent in these industries to the number of people likely driving that spending. This involves several assumptions:
- Average spending per fujoshi: This is the hardest part and likely requires making educated guesses or using ranges.
- The proportion of the market driven by fujoshi: Not all spending in the ACG market is from fujoshi. Consider the percentage likely attributed to them.
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Structuring the Answer: A logical structure is essential for clarity:
- Acknowledge the difficulty: Start by stating the challenge of getting precise numbers.
- Introduce the indirect approach: Explain the method of using industry data.
- Present available industry data: Provide the figures found (with sources).
- Explain the inference process: Show how the industry data might connect to the population size, explicitly stating the assumptions involved.
- Highlight limitations and influencing factors: Discuss why these estimates are not exact (e.g., overlap with other fandoms, varying spending habits).
- Conclude with a nuanced summary: Avoid definitive statements and emphasize the “significant” yet hard-to-quantify nature of the group.
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Finding Specific Data (Example of Search Terms): To locate the data mentioned in the example answer, effective search terms in Chinese would be:
- “耽美市场规模” (danmei market size)
- “二次元经济规模” (two-dimensional economy size)
- “网络文学市场规模” (online literature market size)
- “音频 드라마 시장 규모” (audio drama market size) - even looking at Korean data can give broader insights into trends.
- “腐女群体规模 调查” (fujoshi group size survey) - while direct surveys are rare, this could uncover any attempts.
- Look for reports from organizations like iResearch (艾瑞咨询), Analysys (易观), etc.
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Refining and Qualifying: After drafting the answer, review it critically. Ensure all claims are appropriately qualified, assumptions are stated, and limitations are clear. Avoid presenting speculation as fact.
By following these steps, one can arrive at a comprehensive and nuanced answer that addresses the user’s request while acknowledging the inherent challenges in quantifying this specific demographic.要准确统计中国境内腐女群体的数量非常困难,因为“腐女”并非一个官方定义的人口类别,且涉及个人性取向和兴趣爱好,隐私性较强,难以通过普查等方式获取精确数据。目前并没有官方的统计数据或调研报告直接给出中国腐女群体的数量。
然而,我们可以尝试通过与腐女群体相关的产业产值来推断其规模,但这仍然是一种间接且带有一定假设的估算方式。
以下是一些相关产业及其产值,可以作为推断腐女群体规模的参考:
1. 网络文学(耽美小说):
- 市场规模巨大且持续增长: 耽美(Danmei)小说是腐女群体最核心的文化消费内容之一。中国网络文学市场规模庞大,其中耽美小说占据相当重要的份额。
- 具体数据难以精确分割: 虽然没有专门针对耽美小说的产值统计,但我们可以参考一些网络文学整体市场的报告,并结合行业内人士的估计。例如:
- 中国音像与数字出版协会发布的《2022年度中国数字阅读报告》 显示,2022年中国数字阅读市场整体营收规模为280.33亿元。虽然该报告未单独列出耽美小说的份额,但可以肯定的是,耽美作品是网络文学的重要组成部分。
- 部分行业报告或分析指出,耽美作品在女性向网络文学市场中占比很高。 例如,一些报告提到女性向网络文学市场占据网络文学市场的相当比例,而耽美又是女性向的重要分支。
- 推断: 庞大的网络文学市场,尤其是女性向市场的繁荣,可以侧面印证腐女群体的规模相当可观。
2. 动漫、漫画、游戏(ACG)相关产业:
- 耽美题材的ACG作品日益增多: 许多动漫、漫画、游戏作品包含男性角色之间的情感描写,吸引了大量腐女受众。
- 产值数据:
- 《2023中国游戏产业报告》 显示,2023年中国游戏市场实际销售收入为3029.64亿元。虽然没有专门针对耽美向游戏的统计,但许多乙女游戏、部分剧情向游戏等吸引了大量腐女玩家。
- 动漫产业: 中国动漫产业也在快速发展,其中一些作品以男性角色互动为卖点,受到腐女群体的欢迎。例如,一些国创动画(如《天官赐福》、《魔道祖师》改编动画)取得了巨大的商业成功。
- 推断: ACG产业的繁荣,以及其中耽美题材作品的成功,也反映了腐女群体对内容消费的强大需求。
3. 音频剧(广播剧):
- 耽美音频剧是热门品类: 许多热门的耽美小说被改编成音频剧,在各大音频平台上获得极高的播放量和付费率。
- 产值数据: 虽然缺乏针对耽美音频剧的独立数据,但音频内容付费市场整体规模在不断扩大。例如,一些平台公布的头部耽美音频剧的销售额非常可观。
- 推断: 耽美音频剧的流行程度可以作为衡量腐女群体规模的一个指标。
4. 周边商品及线下活动:
- 对周边商品的需求旺盛: 腐女群体对于喜爱的作品角色周边商品(如手办、徽章、海报等)具有很强的购买力。
- 线下活动: 漫展、主题咖啡厅等线下活动也经常能看到腐女群体的身影,她们会为了喜欢的作品和角色进行消费。
- 产值数据难以统计: 这部分消费较为分散,难以通过官方数据获取精确的产值。
总结与推断:
由于缺乏直接的统计数据,我们无法给出一个精确的中国腐女群体数量。但是,通过观察与腐女群体密切相关的产业,我们可以得出一些推断:
- 腐女群体规模庞大且不容忽视: 网络文学(尤其是耽美小说)、ACG产业(尤其是部分动画和游戏)、耽美音频剧等领域的繁荣,以及周边商品的消费,都表明中国存在一个相当规模的腐女群体。
- 消费能力强劲: 这些产业的产值体现了腐女群体的强大消费能力和对相关内容及产品的需求。
- 持续增长的趋势: 随着文化娱乐产业的发展和社交媒体的传播,腐女文化的影响力可能在持续扩大。
需要强调的是,以上是通过产业产值进行的一种间接推断,并不能直接等同于腐女群体的具体人数。 每个人的消费能力和偏好不同,一个产业的繁荣也可能受到多种因素的影响。
未来可能的趋势:
- 更细分的市场研究: 随着对女性消费市场的重视,未来可能会出现更细致的市场研究报告,更深入地分析腐女群体的消费行为和市场贡献。
- 社交媒体数据分析: 通过分析社交媒体平台上与耽美文化相关的用户行为和话题热度,或许能提供一些侧面的参考信息。
总而言之,虽然无法给出精确的数字,但可以肯定的是,中国的腐女群体是一个重要的文化现象和消费群体,其规模不容小觑,并对相关产业的发展产生了显著的影响。
数据来源:
- 中国音像与数字出版协会:《2022年度中国数字阅读报告》
- 中国音数协游戏工委(CGIGC):《2023中国游戏产业报告》
- 艾瑞咨询、易观分析等市场研究机构发布的关于网络文学、动漫、游戏等行业的报告(具体报告需要检索当时发布的相关内容)。
请注意,以上列举的只是一些可能的权威数据来源,实际进行推断时,需要查阅最新的行业报告和数据。 由于缺乏直接针对腐女群体的统计,最终的推断仍然带有一定的推测性。
那么,你是否认同耽美的负面影响相对较少?和其它产业被取缔相比更不公正?如果你承认负面影响是道德上不正义的来源。
我和你这种偷换概念的人没什么可说的,我支持在态度上取缔所有淫秽产业
我问个私人问题,你自己看色情信息嘛
我希望你不要放弃,正面回应上面这几个问题,不然你就是默认了,那样也可以嘛?
当然,下面这个私人问题不必回答(笑
你不覺得這“罪”太重了嗎(
suen第一條就用gemini解釋了,文字獲罪比強姦罪還重就不正常。。。
我真的觉得非常困惑,大家都认为色情信息是洪水猛兽嘛?我记得青少年对这东西最感兴趣了来着?我的初中同学们平时都是可以开着黄段子哈哈大笑的,不论男女。其中甚至也不乏成绩优异,广受敬重的同学们。我认为这里至少还是北大附,至少还是自由开放的论坛,可以包容这些。当然,我并没有指控大家都看淫秽信息,我相信这里是存在这样高尚的人的。我不认为自己是道德的人,但我关心道德,愿意探讨道德,如果你认为我关于道德的观点是错误的,请给出详细的论证吧,不要弃我而去