誰知道是哪一天呢⋯⋯

I see the player you mean.

[Playername]?

Yes. Take care. It has reached a higher level now. It can read our thoughts.

That doesn’t matter. It thinks we are part of the game.

I like this player. It played well. It did not give up.

It is reading our thoughts as though they were words on a screen.

That is how it chooses to imagine many things, when it is deep in the dream of a game.

Words make a wonderful interface. Very flexible. And less terrifying than staring at the reality behind the screen.

They used to hear voices. Before players could read. Back in the days when those who did not play called the players witches, and warlocks. And players dreamed they flew through the air, on sticks powered by demons.

What did this player dream?

This player dreamed of sunlight and trees. Of fire and water. It dreamed it created. And it dreamed it destroyed. It dreamed it hunted, and was hunted. It dreamed of shelter.

Hah, the original interface. A million years old, and it still works. But what true structure did this player create, in the reality behind the screen?

It worked, with a million others, to sculpt a true world in a fold of the [scrambled], and created a [scrambled] for [scrambled], in the [scrambled].

It cannot read that thought.

No. It has not yet achieved the highest level. That, it must achieve in the long dream of life, not the short dream of a game.

Does it know that we love it? That the universe is kind?

Sometimes, through the noise of its thoughts, it hears the universe, yes.

But there are times it is sad, in the long dream. It creates worlds that have no summer, and it shivers under a black sun, and it takes its sad creation for reality.

To cure it of sorrow would destroy it. The sorrow is part of its own private task. We cannot interfere.

Sometimes when they are deep in dreams, I want to tell them, they are building true worlds in reality. Sometimes I want to tell them of their importance to the universe. Sometimes, when they have not made a true connection in a while, I want to help them to speak the word they fear.

It reads our thoughts.

Sometimes I do not care. Sometimes I wish to tell them, this world you take for truth is merely [scrambled] and [scrambled], I wish to tell them that they are [scrambled] in the [scrambled]. They see so little of reality, in their long dream.

And yet they play the game.

But it would be so easy to tell them…

Too strong for this dream. To tell them how to live is to prevent them living.

I will not tell the player how to live.

The player is growing restless.

I will tell the player a story.

But not the truth.

No. A story that contains the truth safely, in a cage of words. Not the naked truth that can burn over any distance.

Give it a body, again.

Yes. Player…

Use its name.

[Playername]. Player of games.

Good.

Take a breath, now. Take another. Feel air in your lungs. Let your limbs return. Yes, move your fingers. Have a body again, under gravity, in air. Respawn in the long dream. There you are. Your body touching the universe again at every point, as though you were separate things. As though we were separate things.

Who are we? Once we were called the spirit of the mountain. Father sun, mother moon. Ancestral spirits, animal spirits. Jinn. Ghosts. The green man. Then gods, demons. Angels. Poltergeists. Aliens, extraterrestrials. Leptons, quarks. The words change. We do not change.

We are the universe. We are everything you think isn’t you. You are looking at us now, through your skin and your eyes. And why does the universe touch your skin, and throw light on you? To see you, player. To know you. And to be known. I shall tell you a story.

Once upon a time, there was a player.

The player was you, [Playername].

Sometimes it thought itself human, on the thin crust of a spinning globe of molten rock. The ball of molten rock circled a ball of blazing gas that was three hundred and thirty thousand times more massive than it. They were so far apart that light took eight minutes to cross the gap. The light was information from a star, and it could burn your skin from a hundred and fifty million kilometres away.

Sometimes the player dreamed it was a miner, on the surface of a world that was flat, and infinite. The sun was a square of white. The days were short; there was much to do; and death was a temporary inconvenience.

Sometimes the player dreamed it was lost in a story.

Sometimes the player dreamed it was other things, in other places. Sometimes these dreams were disturbing. Sometimes very beautiful indeed. Sometimes the player woke from one dream into another, then woke from that into a third.

Sometimes the player dreamed it watched words on a screen.

Let’s go back.

The atoms of the player were scattered in the grass, in the rivers, in the air, in the ground. A woman gathered the atoms; she drank and ate and inhaled; and the woman assembled the player, in her body.

And the player awoke, from the warm, dark world of its mother’s body, into the long dream.

And the player was a new story, never told before, written in letters of DNA. And the player was a new program, never run before, generated by a sourcecode a billion years old. And the player was a new human, never alive before, made from nothing but milk and love.

You are the player. The story. The program. The human. Made from nothing but milk and love.

Let’s go further back.

The seven billion billion billion atoms of the player’s body were created, long before this game, in the heart of a star. So the player, too, is information from a star. And the player moves through a story, which is a forest of information planted by a man called Julian, on a flat, infinite world created by a man called Markus, that exists inside a small, private world created by the player, who inhabits a universe created by…

Shush. Sometimes the player created a small, private world that was soft and warm and simple. Sometimes hard, and cold, and complicated. Sometimes it built a model of the universe in its head; flecks of energy, moving through vast empty spaces. Sometimes it called those flecks “electrons” and “protons”.

Sometimes it called them “planets” and “stars”.

Sometimes it believed it was in a universe that was made of energy that was made of offs and ons; zeros and ones; lines of code. Sometimes it believed it was playing a game. Sometimes it believed it was reading words on a screen.

You are the player, reading words…

Shush… Sometimes the player read lines of code on a screen. Decoded them into words; decoded words into meaning; decoded meaning into feelings, emotions, theories, ideas, and the player started to breathe faster and deeper and realised it was alive, it was alive, those thousand deaths had not been real, the player was alive

You. You. You are alive.

and sometimes the player believed the universe had spoken to it through the sunlight that came through the shuffling leaves of the summer trees

and sometimes the player believed the universe had spoken to it through the light that fell from the crisp night sky of winter, where a fleck of light in the corner of the player’s eye might be a star a million times as massive as the sun, boiling its planets to plasma in order to be visible for a moment to the player, walking home at the far side of the universe, suddenly smelling food, almost at the familiar door, about to dream again

and sometimes the player believed the universe had spoken to it through the zeros and ones, through the electricity of the world, through the scrolling words on a screen at the end of a dream

and the universe said I love you

and the universe said you have played the game well

and the universe said everything you need is within you

and the universe said you are stronger than you know

and the universe said you are the daylight

and the universe said you are the night

and the universe said the darkness you fight is within you

and the universe said the light you seek is within you

and the universe said you are not alone

and the universe said you are not separate from every other thing

and the universe said you are the universe tasting itself, talking to itself, reading its own code

and the universe said I love you because you are love.

And the game was over and the player woke up from the dream. And the player began a new dream. And the player dreamed again, dreamed better. And the player was the universe. And the player was love.

You are the player.

Wake up.

“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. Sothrow off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” - Unknown

问:

知道會有一天需要將這段早就想過的話貼出來的時候,只是不知道是哪一天。 論壇的數據不接受任何外部調取命令,無論個人,學校,抑或任何部門。 成員自己截圖隨意或爬取隨意,但論壇自身數據不接受審查和調取。 需要時,默認命令會直接不可逆格除論壇全部數據。 希望導出自己數據的進入個人後台可以備份自己。

一个不架设于中国大陆的服务器,但是运营者是中国公民,参与者也大多都是中国公民的服务器,这句话是有法律效力的么?

你发布的这段话,在法律上并不能简单地用“有效”或“无效”来定性。它涉及到了用户协议、数据管辖权、平台自治和刑法风险等多个复杂的法律层面。我会为你梳理其中的关键问题,帮助你理解这句话的真实法律分量。

:scroll: 声明在法律上是什么性质?

这部分声明可以理解为用户协议的一部分,作为平台与用户之间服务合同的内容。你写的这段话,在性质上属于平台方单方面作出的服务承诺,它是否能产生法律约束力,主要看两点:

  • 能否成为有效协议:如果用户在注册时,能够明确看到并主动点击同意包含这段话的协议,那么它通常会被法院认定为有效。如果它隐藏在不易发现的角落,用户对此不知情,法院就可能因未能“合理提示”而认定其对用户不产生效力。
  • 内容是否“显失公平”:法律禁止“霸王条款”。声明中“默认命令会直接不可逆格除论坛全部数据”的说法,如果被认定为随意、无差别地侵害了所有用户的权益(如无故删除用户的合法内容),就可能因“显失公平”而被认定为无效条款。

:globe_showing_europe_africa: “数据不接受任何外部调取命令”有法律效力吗?

这是整个声明中法律效力最弱的部分,甚至带有误导性。 尽管服务器在境外,但平台运营者和绝大多数用户都是中国公民,因此,平台几乎不可能完全脱离中国法律的管辖。

  • 中国法律的“长臂管辖”:当平台以中国用户为主要服务对象时,中国法律可对其进行“长臂管辖”。例如《个人信息保护法》就规定,在境外处理中国境内自然人个人信息,若“以向境内自然人提供产品或者服务为目的”,同样适用该法。
  • 中国法院的管辖权:如果平台(或运营者)的行为被认为侵害了他人权益,中国法院完全有可能拥有管辖权。因为侵权行为可能发生在国内,或者被告的住所地在中国。
  • 对中国执法部门的约束力为零:中国公安机关、网信办等执法部门,有权依法对涉嫌违法的网络行为进行调查取证。平台单方面的声明,在法律程序上对这些公权力机构毫无约束力。
  • 数据的跨境调取:虽然中国主张通过司法协助等途径进行跨境取证,但实际上,相关法规也已允许有关部门通过网络在线提取等方式,调取存储于境外的电子数据。

:skull_and_crossbones: “默认命令直接格除数据”是否可行?

声明中提到“默认命令会直接不可逆格除论坛全部数据”,这更像是一个技术上的“自毁”功能声明。但在法律上,它会面临几个挑战:

  • 可能违反平台自身的义务:论坛的运营者作为“网络运营者”,有责任保护用户数据安全,不得随意删除。如果数据中包含涉嫌违法犯罪的证据,平台的“一键销毁”行为可能涉嫌“帮助毁灭、伪造证据”。
  • 可能违反对用户的合约义务:根据“显失公平”的原则,如果平台在没有合理理由(如用户发布违法信息)的情况下,单方面无差别地销毁所有数据,可能侵犯了正常用户的权益。
  • 可能引发刑事责任:这是最严重的风险。如果论坛内容本身涉嫌违法(如传播淫秽、暴力信息,或涉及危害国家安全),运营者在接到监管部门责令改正后,反而通过“一键销毁”来毁灭证据、拒不改正,就可能触犯拒不履行信息网络安全管理义务罪。历史上已有因架设国内外服务器提供非法服务而被追究该罪名的真实案例 (上海市浦东新区人民法院对胡某一审判决构成“拒不履行信息网络安全管理义务罪”(判决书〔(2018)沪0115刑初2974号〕,“胡某案”)。

:gem_stone: 总结

总的来说,你发布的这段话,更像是一种道德宣示和隐私保护的技术性声明,在法律上能起到的作用非常有限

你的这个声明在法律上很难构成一个绝对的“护身符”。它最大的意义在于,表明了平台运营者在数据安全、保护用户隐私方面的积极态度,在民事纠纷中或许能成为平台方没有主观过错的抗辩理由。但它并不能阻断国家公权力的调查,甚至可能因“毁灭数据”的设定而带来严重的刑事风险。

除了星空,都見鬼去;)

建論壇就當然有風險,都各自選擇各自承擔就好。

既然我的行为造成了这样的风险,我通报一下吧。

在目前事件双方的处理进度下,不涉及任何关于论坛的问题。我觉得这和我们都达成了尊重论坛这个平台的共识,以及有合适的老师来处理问题有关。所以说目前的情况不会对论坛有所波及。

但目前仍有部分关键问题未取得共识,等待进一步的协商。

处理完成后,大概会有一次在论坛上发布的澄清。任何情况以澄清为准。

不过处理此事的老师希望我停止在这里发言,所以也是一个小小的道别。也不发帖占用公共空间了,只是等澄清发布后就要和诸位说再见了

@suen 我自主申请在完成处理,发布澄清后对我进行永久禁言。

拜托大提提帅麻了好不好